speechless chorus...

[landstander]

right this is sad...but fuck yiz...

what does conall play during the chorus and quiet bit of speechless.....or what sounds rite at least...

cheers

[Conall]

erm...let me see.... 4 chords.

1) C major 7th

---7----
---8----
---9----
---10--
----x---
---8---- (hold this note with your thumb)

2) C minor add 6 (not sure if this is the real name for this chord... but it's what I'll call it for now)
---x---
--10--
---8---
--10--
---x---
---8--- (again hold this note with thumb)

3) B minor 7 (bar chord)

--7---
--10--
--7---
--7---
--9---
--7---

4) E minor (bar chord)

---7---
---8---
---9---
---9---
---7---
---0---


there ye go

[Goo Face]

Its that speedy gonzalez "chuggada-chuggadah-CHU" riff that I find impossible....

[landstander]

really cú?

well when i do the "CHUG" of the first "chugada" i hold an e5 and for the rest of the "chugada" and the next "chugada" i just hit the open E, and on the "chu" hit the e5 on the a string.

thats all that old nofx/tsunami bomb mixed with fuckin metal-icka and pantera has helped me do.

conall, spank you mofo

[landstander]

actualy, goo-face. i recall u tellin me u cud do that motherfucker riff after the breakdown of all u need (single version)

now that takes a bit of wrist movement...

[rob]

i remember playin that with Gav and Log and me band in athy back in january, this was a couple of months before the album came out, and it came to the part where Conall had been playin the solo and Gav turned to be me and said "introducing on guitar rob rainsford" and i was like 'oh shit', so i had everyone cheering as they do to conall and sean filming me and i only knew the first two parts of the solo from listening to conall at other gigs, so i just made up the rest, luckily the new version of it wasnt released yet

i thought speechless was one of the easier MGS songs to learn, i learnt it when it came out in the demo with 5 sec..in early 03, i couldn't learn 5 sec heaven though i found it so hard back then, still kinda do, i know everything in it including the bass line now though just to make up for it, though i still find the verse hard to
learn, i know the basic chords buts that about it

edit: god i'm sad

[landstander]

well i cud play along with the cd, but i knew what i was playin wasnt right....(for speechless)
5 second heaven was da 1st one i got coz of sean tabbin it out ages ago...

ah well...im sad too...

[rob]

fuck thats right he did tab it out i remember now, might go look at it

[rob]

the first chuga is on the low e and then move to the high e the second time you chug on the low e and move to power chord d and repeat

very technical terms on my behalf

[Goo Face]

I can play the riff alright it just knackers me...

[feylya]

Any chance someone could tab it? I can't tab by ear and I've no idea of theory so you talking about E5's on the A are just confusing me

[rob]

oh right i know what yea mean now cuan

i know next to nothing about theory and i'm pretty shit at tabs too so i'm no help to you feylya

[landstander]

*sigh*....em...right....feck sake...this is how i play it.

e|----------------------------------------------------------------------------
b|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
g|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
d|-------------------------------------------9-------------------------------------
a|--------------2----------------------------7---------------------------------------
e|---0---------0-0-0--------0-0-0----------0------------------------------------------------

......chug....chug-ada......chug-ada.......CHU.................

..........................|in this time move|
..........................|your hand up the|
..........................| neck... |

yes....just listen to the song and ul get what im on about....thats just how i play it anywho...

[rob]

stop *sighing*, you love it!!..haha

[feylya]

Ah, ok. It's just the notes that get me. The rhythm is grand. Cheers